I'm surprised by the scepticism re 80k. The OP EA/LT survey from 2020 seems to suggest one can be quite confident of the positive impact 80k had on the small (but important) population surveyed. As the authors noted in their summary:

Among the organizations, pieces of content, and meetup groups/discussion platforms we explicitly asked about, the ones that seemed to have been most impactful on our respondents robustly, across multiple metrics, were 80,000 Hours, CEA, local and university EA groups, FHI, Nick Bostrom’s works, Eliezer Yudkowsky’s works, and Peter Singer’s works.

My recommended readings/resources for community builders/organisers

• CEA's groups resource centre, naturally 
• This handbook on community organising 
• High Output Management by Andrew Groves
• How to Launch a High-Impact Nonprofit
• LifeLabs's coaching questions (great for 1-1s with organisers you're supporting/career coachees)
• The 2-Hour Cocktail Party
• Centola's work on social change, e.g., the book Change: How to Make Big Things Happen
• Han's work on organising, e.g., How Organisations Develop Activists (I wrote up some notes here)
• This 80k article on community coordination
• @Michael Noetel's forum post - 'We all teach: here's how to do it better' 
• Theory of change in ten steps
• Rumelt's Good Strategy Bad Strategy
• IDinsight's Impact Measurement Guide

Ha yes that would have been helpful of me, I agree! Unfortunately, I can't remember much, it was a couple of years ago. I remember experiencing a significant vibes mismatch in the section on excluding people (but maybe I was just being close-minded) and frustration with its wordiness. 
 

Ah yes, that would be handy. I can't see a way of doing that, unfortunately. 

Pro-tip, if you have an iPhone, Apple's podcast app now has transcriptions for most podcasts, including this one :) 

I've heard from a lot of people that they've got a lot of value from this book. I'll be honest, I started it but didn't finish it. It didn't sit right with me at the time. 

I found The 2-Hour Cocktail Party to be far more valuable. I'd recommend it to anyone organising events, particularly social meet-ups. 

Pros:

• Short and to the point
• Gives you a clear (and very detailed) algorithm to follow
• I used it to host a gathering and it was a success
• Despite it being tailored to a very specific scenario, I've used the advice in other scenarios and it's worked well

Cons:

• The author makes a big thing out of the importance of icebreakers and name tags. I didn't follow that advice and it was absolutely fine. His advice is unusual for a US party but I think even more unusual for an EU party, so I didn't want to risk it (people were already weirded out by relatively small things, e.g., a weeknight party for no reason and an RSVP page)
• The advice is tailored to a very specific scenario (~15-person weeknight social gathering)

Big +1, thanks for bigging up Imma (and the Dutch EA community!)

Yeah I think I agree with you, and I think considering those three levels to be appropriate is consistent with the statement 'I think most people should think of EA as little more than a hobby'. 

I feel like pushing the 'treat it like a hobby' thing is good at the mo because I see a lot of people in the EA community feeling they ought to do more, and then they feel bad when it doesn't work out, and that sucks. I worry they begin to tie their self-worth to whether they are a 'good EA' or not. I want to be like, hey, take it easy, you're doing a good job - y'know?^[1] 

I'm reminded of when I spoke to a therapist at my uni because I was struggling with anxiety and perfectionism. I wanted to get the best grades and do great things, but in pursuing that goal so relentlessly it was a) undermining my ability to study well and b) making me unhappy. He reminded me that being a student was only a small part of my life. I was also a friend, a partner, a citizen, a son, etc., and these parts of my life were all equally valuable (if not more so).   

I might take a different approach if I was talking with a member of the general population. Rutger Bregman's School of Moral Ambition does that. He's very much, 'Yo, you've got all this potential, you should be more morally ambitious'. But then again, maybe I wouldn't because the most thorough definition of EA I know of is non-normative, and I'm glad this is the case. 

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   I thought 80k's episode on altruistic perfectionism was great and we could do with more of it.

Thanks for the kind words! Glad you found my framing helpful :)

Oh but I did put 'donate some money' in my 'hobby' list - or am I misunderstanding you?