Comment author: tjmather  (EA Profile) 16 August 2016 01:50:32PM *  2 points [-]

What would an ideal EA event look like to you? Would you like to see more discussion on earning to give and where to donate? Do you feel like earning to give is underappreciated in the EA community?

Comment author: cdc482 16 August 2016 09:22:16PM 1 point [-]

Just my opinion. I'd like to see more EA's working together. For example, at a couple events there were discussion of helping people pursue higher paying jobs in software development. I met another EA who invests money for EAs at a rate significantly higher than the market without taking fees.

Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 15 August 2016 03:24:03PM 3 points [-]

The 2015 EA Survey asked questions about welcoming, which may be more representative (though still biased and not truly representative).

We could add NPS to the 2016 Survey.

Comment author: cdc482 15 August 2016 10:32:54PM 5 points [-]

Im an EA. I've donated over 50% of my income for over 3 years, and I've been active volunteering (informally and formally) for over 8 years. I rarely felt comfortable at an EA event or meetup.

Ive met a handful of people who donate 10%, and a handful of people who do some volunteer work. I've also met a bunch of people I suspect of being more interested in philosophy and socializing than altruism. EA community building is a huge disappointment.

There is huge potential in EAs working together--the sum of the wholes are greater than the sum of the parts. But after 3 years of trying, I'm about ready to give up.

Comment author: cdc482 15 August 2016 01:48:04AM 3 points [-]

"Lets poll EAG attendees to see how EAs feel about EA" -no statistician ever

Comment author: cdc482 09 August 2016 11:28:51PM 1 point [-]

I think is a great opportunity for the information we know on acting well to be formalized into recommendations. For example, I believe the consensus is that buying organic is not particularly good for environment while going veg has a large measurable effect. There are other relatively small changes you can make to your home and place of employment like reducing waste and planting trees. Any have input?

Comment author: AGB 30 July 2016 03:38:54PM 2 points [-]

I've been earning to give for a few years.

I'm not quite sure what the relevance of the second quote is supposed to be; it seems to argue for developing expertise in an area and is agnostic on whether that area should be 'direct' or 'indirect', since it's self-centred in the first place. A hint in what you're getting at might be in your title; you conflate 'follow your passion' with 'direct work'. I submit that while probably more people are passionate about charity work than, say, working in finance, there are far more people who are passionate about neither.

Also, even if you are passionate about an area now, whether you will remain passionate for long enough to develop the expertise described is still in question; this seems like an end-of-history illusion*. This makes the message of the first quote dubious to me; what happens when what you love changes? Which is one of the reasons 80k recommends against 'following your passion' as good career advice for young people especially.

With all that said, if you are an excellent fit for an area (you're good at it, you enjoy it) and it happens to be an area which fits neatly into high-impact direct work or high-donation earning-to-give, then I'd generally recommend people do that. While their passions are likely to change, their current favoured areas are probably a better guide to what they will like in 15 years than picking at random. And that's what I'm doing. But those are the easy cases ;) Everyone else has to think a bit harder unfortunately, and that's where 80k comes in.

"The end-of-history illusion is a psychological illusion in which individuals of all ages believe that they have experienced significant personal growth and changes in tastes up to the present moment, but will not substantially grow or mature in the future.[1] Despite recognizing that their perceptions have evolved, individuals predict that their perceptions will remain roughly the same in the future."

Comment author: cdc482 30 July 2016 07:17:30PM 0 points [-]

Regarding the second quote, pretend you're debating between a job you love and a job that pays double. The quote is saying that if you really love the job, you may wind up being paid comparably anyway, because people who are passionate about their work tend to be the best, and tend to be paid way more than average.


Earning to Give v. Pursuing your Passion/Direct Work

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Comment author: cdc482 29 July 2016 10:59:42PM 0 points [-]

Id like to see a similar post about productive group events.

This rings true for the meetup I attend.

(Homogenous groups miss out on talent, experience, and information held by those who aren’t in the limited social group they recruit from. We end up with lopsided skill sets and the same conversations again and again.)

Comment author: egastfriend 29 July 2016 01:53:48AM 0 points [-]

Re: Propranolol, I spoke with Dr. Alain Brunet at McGill University, who conducted some of the studies you're referring to and was very helpful in explaining the science behind it and the potential.

Comment author: cdc482 29 July 2016 02:41:09AM 0 points [-]

If I remember correctly, participants were read stories and then asked to recall sad details. Not trying to be a downer, but the study's design is poorly related to PTSD.

Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 23 July 2016 04:01:14PM 3 points [-]

40K is also a career consulting organization for people with much lower life expectancy.

Comment author: cdc482 25 July 2016 04:27:37AM 2 points [-]

EA dark humor.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 23 July 2016 11:25:19AM *  2 points [-]

Interesting observation. However, I think it's a bit more complicated than you make it out to be. Let's say I'm a very high earner and the standard deduction is tiny compared to my total income. If I give 10% each year, that 10% would have been taxed at a very high marginal rate. If I give 50% in a given year, the first 40% of that 50% would have been taxed at a comparatively lower marginal rate, and thus I get a smaller total refund.

The best strategy might be giving 30% every 3 years or something like that.

The argument also doesn't work if you have good reasons not to take the standard deduction, e.g. enough kids and other things you get tax breaks on.

There is a handy tool on the W-4 to determine how many exemptions you should claim based on your expected donations. For 50% of income, I remember the exemptions being ~10.

I believe there's a space to write the amount of money you plan to donate on your W-4, although it's on the back of the sheet or something like that (the HR person at the last company I worked at wasn't aware of it).

Comment author: cdc482 23 July 2016 03:16:19PM 0 points [-]

Good point, the best strategy will vary based on income. I guess getting above that $6,500 is the first hurdle.

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