Comment author: Elizabeth 16 January 2017 05:53:25PM 4 points [-]

A list of ethical and practical concerns the EA movement has with Intentional Insights: http://effective-altruism.com/ea/12z/concerns_with_intentional_insights/ .

Gleb Tsipursky has also repeatedly said he will leave the EA movement.

Comment author: Gleb_T  (EA Profile) 17 January 2017 04:03:59PM 0 points [-]

Gleb Tsipursky has also repeatedly said he will leave the EA movement.

This is simply false. See what I actually said here

Comment author: Elizabeth 16 January 2017 05:53:14PM 4 points [-]

A list of ethical and practical concerns the EA movement has with Intentional Insights: http://effective-altruism.com/ea/12z/concerns_with_intentional_insights/ .

Gleb Tsipursky has also repeatedly said he will leave the EA movement.

Comment author: Gleb_T  (EA Profile) 17 January 2017 04:03:52PM 0 points [-]

Gleb Tsipursky has also repeatedly said he will leave the EA movement.

This is simply false. See what I actually said here

Comment author: kbog  (EA Profile) 09 January 2017 07:23:31PM 0 points [-]

I mean a core as in a fixed point of interest. E.g. a forum, a blog, a website, a college club, etc. Something to seed the initiative that can stand on its own without having thousands of active members. You can't gather interested people without having something valuable to attract them.

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Comment author: Gleb_T  (EA Profile) 09 January 2017 09:51:35PM -1 points [-]

We have a number of collaborative venues, such as a Facebook group, blog, email lists, etc. for people who get involved.

Comment author: kbog  (EA Profile) 09 January 2017 04:26:32AM *  1 point [-]

I don't know if social movements ever start from concerted efforts like this. For instance, EA started because one or two organizations and philosophers got a lot of interest from a few people. Other social movements start spontaneously when people are triggered into protest and action by major events. It seems good to have an identifiable 'core' to any kind of movement, like the idea I had - "a formal or semi-formal structure to aggregate and compare evidence from both sides." If you leverage swarm intelligence, prediction markets, argument mapping or more basic online mechanisms then you can start to make something impressive that stands on its own. Though such a system would be more difficult to make successful if you tried to make it relevant for the broad population rather than just EAs. It's just one example.

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Comment author: Gleb_T  (EA Profile) 09 January 2017 04:55:57AM 0 points [-]

Yup, we're focusing on a core of people who are upset about lies and deceptions in the US election and the Brexit campaign, and aiming to provide them with means to address these deceptions in an effective manner. That's the goal!

Comment author: kbog  (EA Profile) 08 January 2017 07:16:05PM *  0 points [-]

I don't really get what it will do? Is it supposed to be a broad social movement? Or a new organization? Is it just going to be a name over a bunch of articles?

We thus anticipate that RAP will draw some heat from conservatives, and do not want to risk any backlash on the EA movement as a whole.

You're probably going to get more from liberals when you advocate being rational about conservatives.

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Comment author: Gleb_T  (EA Profile) 08 January 2017 09:04:31PM 0 points [-]

Broad social movement. We're aiming to focus on social media organizing at first, and then spread to local grassroots organizing later. There will be a lot of marketing and PR associated with it as well.

Comment author: PeterMcCluskey 08 January 2017 07:32:58PM 6 points [-]

You claim this is non-partisan, yet you make highly partisan claims, such as "conservatives have relied much more on lies" (you cite Trump's lies, but treating Trump as a conservative is objectionable to many conservatives).

Comment author: Gleb_T  (EA Profile) 08 January 2017 09:03:43PM -3 points [-]

Well, ok, are you really going to make this semantic argument with me? Trump is widely accepted by the Republican party as its leader. I'll be happy to agree on using the term "Republican" instead of "conservative" to address your concerns.

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Comment author: Czynski 31 October 2016 06:44:23PM 1 point [-]

The only concrete change specified here is something you've previously claimed to already do. This is yet one more instance of you not actually changing your behavior when sanctioned.

Comment author: Gleb_T  (EA Profile) 02 November 2016 02:54:41AM 2 points [-]

You are mistaken, we have never claimed that we will distance InIn publicly from the EA movement.

We have previously talked about us not focusing on EA in our broad audience writings, and instead talking about effective giving - which is what we've been doing. At the same time, we were quite active on the EA Forum, and engaging in a lot of behind-the-scenes, and also public, collaborations to promote effective marketing within the EA sphere.

Now, we are distancing from the EA movement as a whole.

Comment author: Gleb_T  (EA Profile) 30 October 2016 10:48:15PM *  11 points [-]

FYI, we decided to distance InIn publicly from the EA movement for the foreseeable future.

We will only reference effective giving and individual orgs that are interested in being promoted, as evidenced by being interested in providing InIn with stats for how many people we are sending to their websites, and similar forms of collaboration (yes, I'm comfortable using the term collaboration for this form of activity). Since GWWC/CEA seem not interested, we will not mention them in our future content.

Our work of course will continue to be motivated by EA concerns for doing the best things possible to improve the world in a cost-effective way, but we'll shift our focus from explicitly EA-themed activities to our other area of work - spreading rational thinking and decision-making to reduce existential risk, address fundamental societal problems, and decrease individual suffering. Still, we'll also continue to engage in collaborations and activities that have proved especially beneficial within the EA-related sphere, such as doing outreach to secular folks and spreading Giving Games, yet that will be a smaller aspect of our activities than in the past.

Comment author: Gleb_T  (EA Profile) 30 October 2016 10:38:21PM 16 points [-]

FYI, we removed references to GWWC and CEA from our documents

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