Comment author: kierangreig 15 December 2017 06:38:18PM *  6 points [-]

[Disclosure: I am a Research Associate at ACE.]

I am also excited about Sentience Institute’s work and look forward to seeing more :)

Small point:

We also produced Global Farmed & Factory Farmed Animals Estimates, suggesting that around 71% of farmed land animals and probably 96% of all farmed animals globally are factory farmed, and that probably 85% of the farmed animals alive at any time are fish.

The estimate of farmed fish numbers used in that estimate relies on Mood and Brooke (2012). The Mood and Brooke (2012) “estimate does not include the numbers of fish farmed for bait and it does not include fish mortalities arising in fish farms prior to harvest….” (p.2). Those exclusions seem significant. E.g.,

  • This article claims that “six billion bait minnows—predominantly golden shiners, fathead minnows, and goldfish—are raised in Arkansas each year and shipped throughout the country.” That would be nearly 19 minnows per capita, more than all the finfish farmed for food for U.S. consumption.

  • ACE estimates that for the four most consumed farmed finfish in the U.S. the mortality rate prior to slaughter is 18-60%, 5-35%, 10-38%, and 12-65% (as 90% subjective confidence intervals) for salmon, tilapia, pangasius and catfish respectively.

Including those quantities in the overall estimate seems like it will take the percentage estimate of the proportion of all farmed animals that are factory farmed much closer to 100%.

It is probably also worth noting that the Global Farmed & Factory Farmed Animals Estimates does not to include estimates for the number of farmed insects (e.g., silkworms and honey bees.) The sheer number of those insects could have a big impact on the percentage estimate of the proportion of all farmed animals that are factory farmed too!

Comment author: Benito 28 June 2017 06:03:50PM 2 points [-]

(Meta: It might be more helpful to submit individual questions as separate comments, so that people can up vote them separately and people's favourite questions (and associated answers) can rise to the top.)

Comment author: kierangreig 28 June 2017 06:48:21PM *  2 points [-]

Thanks. That feedback was useful :)

In future, I will submit individual questions as separate comments.

Comment author: kierangreig 28 June 2017 03:55:57PM *  8 points [-]

(1) To what degree did your beliefs about the consciousness of insects (if insects are too broad a category please just focus on the common fruit fly) change from completing this report and what were the main reasons for those beliefs changing? I would be particularly interested in an answer that covers the following three points: (i) the rough probability that you previously assigned to them being conscious, (ii) the rough probability that you now assign to them being conscious and (iii) the main reasons for the change in that probability.

(2) Do you assign a 0% probability to electrons being conscious?

(3) In section 5.1 you write

I’d like to get more feedback on this report from long-time “consciousness experts” of various kinds. (So far, the only long-time “consciousness expert” from which I’ve gotten extensive feedback is David Chalmers.)

David Chalmers seems like an interesting choice for the one long-time “consciousness expert” to receive extensive feedback from. Why was he the only one that you got extensive feedback from? And of the other consciousness experts that you would like to receive extensive feedback from, do you think that most of them would disagree with some part of the report in a similar way, and if you think they would, what would that disagreement or those disagreements be?

(4) A while ago Carl Shulman put out this document detailing research advice. Can you please do the same, or if you already have a document like this can you please point me to it? I would probably find it useful and I would guess some others would too.

Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:40:48PM 2 points [-]

Agree with Joey. Seems like most of the benefits from this could come with small amounts of effort. Suggestions as replies.

Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:49:31PM 11 points [-]
Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:40:48PM 2 points [-]

Agree with Joey. Seems like most of the benefits from this could come with small amounts of effort. Suggestions as replies.

Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:48:10PM *  5 points [-]

ACE on Charities they would like to see

Disclosure: Currently I am a research intern at ACE.

Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:40:48PM 2 points [-]

Agree with Joey. Seems like most of the benefits from this could come with small amounts of effort. Suggestions as replies.

Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:47:21PM 2 points [-]
Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:40:48PM 2 points [-]

Agree with Joey. Seems like most of the benefits from this could come with small amounts of effort. Suggestions as replies.

Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:46:29PM 4 points [-]
Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:40:48PM 2 points [-]

Agree with Joey. Seems like most of the benefits from this could come with small amounts of effort. Suggestions as replies.

Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:45:32PM 1 point [-]
Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:40:48PM 2 points [-]

Agree with Joey. Seems like most of the benefits from this could come with small amounts of effort. Suggestions as replies.

Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:44:43PM 0 points [-]
Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:40:48PM 2 points [-]

Agree with Joey. Seems like most of the benefits from this could come with small amounts of effort. Suggestions as replies.

Comment author: kierangreig 09 November 2016 04:43:42PM 0 points [-]

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