Comment author: Zeke_Sherman 28 March 2017 02:36:30AM 1 point [-]

Pareto Fellowship was shut down? When? What happened?

Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 28 March 2017 02:52:21AM 2 points [-]

We do not plan to continue the Pareto Fellowship in its current form this year. While we thought that it was a valuable experiment, the cost per participant was too high relative to the magnitude of plan changes made by the fellows. We might consider running a much shorter version of the program, without the project period, in the future. The Pareto Fellowship did, however, make us more excited about doing other high-touch mentoring and training with promising members of the effective altruism community.

From CEA's 2017 Fundraising Report.

Comment author: Tor 27 March 2017 01:00:55AM 2 points [-]

I wanted to dedicate myself to making youtube-videos at some point, but I have another project that I'm prioritizing instead so I'm not spending much time on this at the moment. However, with enough outside help I think that together we might achieve a good impact.

Making videos for existing channels (like e.g. Vox) without expecting payment from them, is a possibility to look into, although convincing them probably would be hard, and the requirements for quality would be challenging. The most likely scenario is publishing to a channel of our own though.

Here is a google-document with some relevant thoughts (ideas and drafts for episodes, etc):

Video-production is a kind of task where a large fraction of the work can be done while listening to podcasts and such once one has done the necessary learning, but many hours are required. If anyone could be interested in working on this, and could see themselves potentially making this project a significant priority in their lives for several years, then feel very free to search up "Tor Barstad" on Facebook and get in touch for a video-conversation or something :)

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Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 27 March 2017 01:35:58AM 2 points [-]

You and others considering prioritizing this may be interested in Charity Science Outreach's shallow review of content marketing.

Comment author: RyanCarey 26 March 2017 06:33:01AM 4 points [-]

You could do unconditional basic income but why would you start with that when we haven't even created a facility for people to fund credible proposals yet? Seems better to reboot EA Ventures or Impact Certificates first (given that the EA community is a bit bigger, and that some of the reasons for previous failure were related to circumstance).

Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 26 March 2017 02:48:03PM 15 points [-]

I guess another important next step would be learning from why similar things like EA Ventures, Impact Certificates, and the Pareto Fellowship didn't get more traction and were shut down.

Comment author: Daniel_Eth 26 March 2017 01:56:12AM 5 points [-]

This makes me wish we had basic income - I feel like the need for some income to fulfill basic needs stops people from "taking risks" and pursuing these sorts of projects.

Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 26 March 2017 04:07:24AM 8 points [-]

I think it could be possible to set up a general sort of EA Fund for this sort of thing, sort of like how there is one for political activism. That could be a missing step on our quest to turn money into talent.

How long do you think someone would have basic income for before they could either "prove" their project and get actual donations / fundraising based on merit or they could go back to a day job? How much funding do you think this would take?

Comment author: adamaero 14 March 2017 06:24:56PM *  0 points [-]

I am sorry. It appears that a GuideStar Premium account is needed. (Or the questions will need to be changed--specifically the time period of the first question.) Or maybe there is a research tool/engine that I'm not aware of.

Anyway, here is a little bit of headway:

Anyone, please feel free to continue. Anyone can edit the document 100%. (You will also be able to see other's work in real time, which can always be reverted back.)

Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 17 March 2017 03:14:56AM 0 points [-]

Thanks! I can take it from here. :)

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Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 07 March 2017 01:44:00AM 4 points [-]

What steps is CEA and Nick (a trustee of CEA) going to take to recuse themselves from discussions in the movement building fund? Will CEA apply for money through the fund? Would there be any possibility of inappropriate pro-CEA bias if someone else applied for the fund wanting to do something similar to what CEA is doing or wants to do?

Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 02 March 2017 11:11:54PM 3 points [-]

March 2 Update: We have a volunteer who is taking on this project. As a result, Joey and I broke down the project more to the following questions:

1.) What were the top twenty foreign aid foundations (including government agencies) from 1975 to 2000 in terms of total grant dollars given to foreign aid (e.g., DFID, USAID, Gates/GAVI)? Scoring them relative to each other, how would you score them on a 1-5 scale with 5 being most accurately described as "hits based" and 1 being most accurately described as "proven evidence-backed"? (Also, is this a useful dichotomy?) Please try to provide justification for rankings.

2a.) Looking back at the list of top twenty orgs by size, pick the top five orgs by size that are more "hits based" and the top five orgs by size that are more "evidence-backed".

2b.) From each of these orgs, look at their top 10 grants by grant size. Of these, pick two grants that are likely to be the highest impact and two grants that are likely to be of average impact (relative to the ten grants from that org). You can look at there website, wiki page, and stated granting strategies to get a sense of this. (There will be 40 grants considered total.) Briefly describe the outcomes of the grant and the grant size. Present these grants shuffled and as blinded as possible (no org name) to Joey and me so that we can independently rank them without knowing whether they came from hits based orgs or not.

2c.) Using your own research, as best as possible, try to quantify the impact of these grants.

2d.) Combining our judgments, come to an overall assessment as best as possible as to the relative success of "hits-based" and "evidence-based" orgs.

We also have a bonus question that is much lower priority but might be of potential interest down the road:

3.) Can VC firms be described as pursuing a "hits based" strategy? How much due diligence do they put into their investments before making them? How does this due diligence compare to OpenPhil? Is there anything from learning about VC strategy we can use to inform EA strategy?


Joey and I separately estimated how long it would take to do (1) + (2). We then averaged our estimates together and then multiplied by 1.5 to adjust for the planning fallacy. We came up with a total of 70 hours. Since this is more than we originally thought, we decided to up our pay from $1500 to $2000.

Comment author: SamDeere 28 February 2017 07:39:13AM *  4 points [-]

Thanks for this

There was an issue with refreshing security tokens. I've just pushed a fix for this — if you refresh (or failing that, a hard refresh - e.g. Cmd+Shift+R) then the issue should resolve itself. I suspect that it works in incognito because you don't have any cookies set. If you're still having issues, try clearing cookies for the page*.

If that doesn't fix it, it'd be amazing if you could send the log from your Chrome console to tech[at]effectivealtruism[dot]org (open by pressing 'Cmd+Shift+J', save by right-clicking on the console background and selecting 'Save as...).

*Help on this if anyone needs it:

Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 01 March 2017 09:48:16PM *  0 points [-]

Hi Sam, thanks for the help, but the issue is not fixed. I'm even now having some problem loading the page in Incognito mode.

Let me know what info you'd like from:

Feel free to email me at if that is easier.

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Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 28 February 2017 05:45:22AM 2 points [-]

On my browser (Chrome on a Macbook), the EA funds just spins forever, even when refreshing or reopening in a new tab. I notice, however, when I open in Incognito mode, it works fine. This could suggest that my uBlock, Privacy Badger, or other plugin is messing with the site?

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Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 28 February 2017 04:59:21AM 9 points [-]

What kind of transparency can users expect around the total size of the DAF, the grant recipients, the sizes of grants to individual recipients, and dates of grants made? I've noticed this information is lacking from the current EA Giving Group DAF.

Also, how does this idea interact with, if at all, the current EA Giving Group DAF?

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