Comment author: Jeff_Kaufman 02 July 2018 07:24:37PM 4 points [-]

The recommendations for sharing others Netflix/Steam accounts and downloading books from LibGen seem like they're in a different category from the rest of the stuff here. There's an enormous debate on piracy out there, but I wanted to flag this.

Comment author: Jeff_Kaufman 02 July 2018 07:20:21PM 6 points [-]

Other things in this direction I've enjoyed:

  • Learn how to fix things, especially expensive things. Working on your own house can save an enormous amount relative to hiring someone.
  • When thinking about hobbies, prioritize ones that don't have large consumable costs
  • Social dances (I like contra dance: are really cheap for how much enjoyment I get out of them
  • Many events will let you in free if you volunteer to help. I've taken money at the door for an hour at many dances in exchange for admission, and it's a great way to meet people.
  • Get good enough at a hobby that it makes you some money (for me, playing music for dances)
  • Learn how to cook: if you get to where it's fun then it's not housework anymore
  • Get excited about optimizing things (for me, recently: house cooling without AC, bulk groceries)
  • If you have kids, figure out how to get things done while also watching them. Bring them to the grocery store, cook with them, etc. It's fine if it takes a lot longer that it would if you did the thing without the kids, because the time is coming out of childwatching-time and not childcare-time
  • Learning how to make the components of your hobbies instead of buying them can be a lot of fun, and can allow much more creativity later as you understand more about the things you're working with.

A lot of this depends on what you enjoy, what you're good at, and what your situation is. A lot of people would find many things on my list not fun at all and probably actively unpleasant.

(On the other hand, I think EA has generally overemphasized frugality. If spending more on transit, or buying food instead of making it, or getting a better internet connection, etc means you have more productive hours on valuable work that can easily be worth it even if it means spending more than your 'share' of world income.)

Comment author: [deleted] 11 June 2018 04:47:38PM *  1 point [-]

evidence in this study points to an estimate of $310 per pig year saved

Christ, I'd give up pork for 4 years for that price. Any takers? 10% discount if it's in the next 24 hours; I'm pretty cash-strapped at the moment.

Comment author: Jeff_Kaufman 02 July 2018 05:31:23PM 1 point [-]

Would you increase your consumption of other animals, such that your meat consumption stayed relatively stable?

Comment author: EricHerboso  (EA Profile) 19 June 2018 08:02:46PM 1 point [-]

This donor is a major general animal welfare donor, and had the ~$600k they gave to the Recommended Charity Fund not occurred, they likely would have given it to other non-EAA animal charities, or they may have just left the money in their foundation for future donations.

While they do support some of our Top Charities and Standout Charities, we do not think it likely that the counterfactual ~$600k would have been donated to any of those Recommended Charities. Also, the ~$600k is in addition to their normal donations to our Recommended Charities.

Comment author: Jeff_Kaufman 22 June 2018 01:11:45AM 2 points [-]

they likely would have given it to other non-EAA animal charities

Thanks! It sounds like how counterfactual to consider this match is depends a lot on how much better you think ACE's Recommended Charities are than the sorts of charities this funder tends to support. Which I'm guessing isn't public information?

just left the money in their foundation for future donations

This is also important for assessing counterfactual impact, and is probably not something the funder knows either. If it would go to an ACE Recommended Charity in 2018 instead of 2017 that's pretty different than if it (a) wouldn't get donated for a long time or (b) would go to a much less valuable charity (see previous paragraph).

Overall, I think when an EA organization describes a match they offer as counterfactually valid they should link to details describing how they're reasoning that. For example "funder wouldn't otherwise donate to any ACE recommended charity this year", "funder would otherwise donate to GiveWell's recommendations", or "funder would otherwise spend the money on a yacht".

Comment author: Jeff_Kaufman 15 June 2018 06:58:46PM 0 points [-]

Thinking about the hotel manager role, it's useful to use earning to give as a baseline for comparing impact. Maybe someone who could do a good job at this role could otherwise earn to give at $75-$150k/year if they were only to keep $20k/year for themself? [1] At full capacity there would be 16 bedrooms, but maybe you average 80% full, so this is an effective subsidy of $6k to $12k per resident per year. This on its own is in the same range as just giving people money to rent housing, even in an expensive market like London or the Bay Area. Then add in the other costs (real estate, upkeep, tasks that are contracted out) and this doesn't actually seem cheaper.

Might still be worth it, for the value of crystalizing a new EA hub in a generally cheaper area, but I'm not sold on it.

[1] Long term my expectation is that working a high paying job is probably building a lot more career capital than working as a hotel manager, but let's ignore that for now.

Comment author: Henry_Stanley 06 June 2018 09:46:43PM 0 points [-]

You'd make a repository on e.g. GitHub and upload the code there. Then other people can see it and suggest changes, or can fork (make a copy of) the repository and start their own thing based off it.

Comment author: Jeff_Kaufman 14 June 2018 06:13:09PM 0 points [-]

Pushing the code into the open is the easy part; if the technical cofounder was on board with open sourcing it that would be very easy for them. The hard parts are things like:

  • Does the code contain anything you don't have the rights to share?
  • Does the code contain any passwords, tokens, or other secrets? (It shouldn't, but this is common.)
  • Is the code a mess that they're worried would reflect poorly on them as a developer? (Very likely; I deal with this by just pushing things publicly anyway, but I also have a good enough traditional resume that I'm not reliant on my github resume.)
Comment author: Jeff_Kaufman 14 June 2018 05:39:25PM 4 points [-]

we had a donor who would not otherwise have given to our Recommended Charity Fund

Do you know anything else about what they would have done with the money otherwise, aside from that it wouldn't have gone to this particular fund?

Comment author: Jeff_Kaufman 03 May 2018 05:56:47PM 7 points [-]

I think this is a direction Julia and I could have gone around 2011. We didn't donate for a year (Julia was in grad school, I took a pay cut to work at a startup trying to maximize risk neutral returns) and it would have been easy to drift away.

Comment author: Jeff_Kaufman 14 January 2018 07:25:27AM 5 points [-]

Thanks for writing this up! Collecting knowledge about what did or didn't work is really important for making progress.

Comment author: Khorton 24 December 2017 07:45:27PM 1 point [-]

Shouldn't the title be about 2018?

Comment author: Jeff_Kaufman 25 December 2017 01:21:27AM 1 point [-]

These are our plans for the rest of 2017. While there aren't many days left, we also haven't made most of our annual donations yet.

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