Comment author: DustinWehr 28 March 2018 01:01:24PM 0 points [-]

"downside focused" is an fantastic term, worthy of replacing both "negative" (not descriptive) and "suffering focused" (too intense for some contexts).

I think I'll call myself a downside focused utilitarian from here on.

Comment author: adamaero  (EA Profile) 10 March 2018 04:12:50PM *  5 points [-]

Thanks. This will be useful for a future presentation. Although, I am going to modify challenges 3-6. Using the word "utilitarian" seems...limiting. EA has utilitarian/consequentialist underpinnings--but not a full blown subscription to only that moral system (i.e., not exclusive). But I'm sure you knew that already. (See Macaskill's comment on 'Effective Altruism' as utilitarian equivocation.)

Off the top of my head, I'm thinking something more along the lines as maximizing impact and the empathy-altruism hypothesis related to meaning well (benevolence) versus actually doing good (beneficence). (Additionally, going to add an outline =)

Also, the slide about Effective Altruism as a movement, founded in 2011? I'm guessing that's for 80k Hours because GWWC has been around since 2009, and the main idea has been around since at least 1972.

Comment author: DustinWehr 12 March 2018 06:13:32PM 1 point [-]

Good points. I don't think "(benevolence)"/"(beneficence)" adds anything, either. Beneficence is effectively EA lingo. You're not going to draw people in by teaching them lingo. Do that a little further into on-boarding.