Comment author: MichaelPlant 10 July 2017 06:32:44PM *  1 point [-]

Thanks for the update. That's helpful.

However, it does seem a bit hard to reconcile GWWC's and 80k's positions on this topic. GWWC (i.e. you) seem to be saying "most EAs care about poverty, so that's what we'll emphasise" whereas 80k (i.e. Ben Todd above) seems to saying "most EAs do (/should?) care about X-risk, so that's what we'll emphasise".

These conclusions seem to be in substantial tension, which itself is may confuse new and old EAs.

Comment author: DavidNash 10 July 2017 09:04:47PM 0 points [-]

Might it be that 80k recommend X-risk because it's neglected (even within EA) and that if more then 50% of EAs had X-risk as their highest priority it would no longer be as neglected?

Comment author: Owen_Cotton-Barratt 13 June 2017 11:18:26AM 9 points [-]

I was a bit confused by some of these. Posting questions/comments here in case others have the same thoughts:

Earning-to-give buy-out

You're currently earning to give, because you think that your donations are doing more good than your direct work would. It might be that we think that it would be more valuable if you did direct work. If so we could donate a proportion of the amount that you were donating to wherever you were donating it, and you would move into work.

This made more sense to me after I realised that we should probably assume the person doesn't think CEA is a top donation target. Otherwise they would have an empirical disagreement about whether they should be doing direct work, and it's not clear how the offer helps resolve that (though it's obviously worth discussing).

Anti-Debates / Shark Tank-style career choice discussions / Research working groups

These are all things that might be good, but it's not obvious how funding would be a bottleneck. Might be worth saying something about that?

For those with a quantitative PhD, it could involve applying for the Google Brain Residency program or AI safety fellowship at ASI.

Similarly I'm confused what the funding is meant to do in these cases.

I'd be keen to see more people take ideas that we think we already know, but haven't ever been put down in writing, and write them up in a thorough and even-handed way; for example, why existential risk from anthropogenic causes is greater than the existential risk from natural causes

I think you were using this as an example of the type of work, rather than a specific request, but some readers might not know that there's a paper forthcoming on precisely this topic (if you mean something different from that paper, I'm interested to know what!).

Comment author: DavidNash 13 June 2017 01:49:19PM 4 points [-]

In terms of Anti-Debates/Shark Tank etc

These might be things local groups organise, but wouldn't make a plan and evaluate unless they had more time to do that.

Comment author: ThomasSittler 31 May 2017 11:59:15PM 4 points [-]

It seems to me that the main reason people are sometimes insufficiently friendly or reliable is not the lack of papers detailing the benefits of considerateness.

Comment author: DavidNash 01 June 2017 08:55:49AM 9 points [-]

If there was any community that it might apply to, it's probably effective altruists.

Comment author: ChristianKleineidam 18 April 2017 03:48:33PM 0 points [-]

If you're passionate about politics and in America, than getting involved now seems like a potentially positive action but it wont be neglected if you align with Democrat positions (but potentially easier to get involved if you are Republican).

Why do you believe it's easier to get involved as Republican?

There are a lot more ways to get involved in state politics than in national policy.

Comment author: DavidNash 20 April 2017 10:46:25AM 0 points [-]

At the moment Democrats are a lot more motivated and have a lot of people volunteering for them. As the Republicans have a majority less people will be getting involved with them as there doesn't seem to be a need to be helped and there'll be less competition for good positions.

I agree that you can get involved at every level and depending on the state dynamics it may make more sense to get involved or to focus on national or international politics.

Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 31 March 2017 07:38:57PM *  3 points [-]

If Clinton had won there would still be a Republican House and Senate

These two outcomes are correlated, so it's unclear to me how true this statement is.

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If Clinton had won, it’s likely Democrats would have to wait until 2028 until they control the Presidency and Congress

I agree that had Clinton won and had the Republicans still won the House and the Senate, it would likely be awhile until the Democrats would control all three, given the strong trend of midterm loss.

Comment author: DavidNash 31 March 2017 08:34:26PM 0 points [-]

It's probably correlated but it seems easier to imagine the scenario where Clinton got 10,000 more votes in Michigan, and 120,000 in Florida. Rather than winning three seats in the Senate and 20+ in the house (and still be massively behind in state legislature).

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In response to Open Thread #36
Comment author: DavidNash 15 March 2017 09:33:17AM 3 points [-]

I think there is a goldmine of advice and practical tips on this website.

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/

But instead of aiming to retire at 30, you'll be able to donate more and still have a healthy retirement fund by not spending all your money, and investing sensibly. The site below is useful with step by step guides.

http://monevator.com/how-to-retirement-plan/

At the moment I give 10% and invest any other savings over that but I probably wont be going into a high paying job and have the benefit of free healthcare.

I may slightly disagree with Linch about retirement money. I think it gives people a lot of power in their careers and job choices if they are able to tell their manager what they actually think and if they aren't desperate to succeed in a job interview. Being financially independent can make it a lot easier to take ethical decisions and make a stand against a bad policy, without having to worry about losing your job.

That depends on how much you think you need to feel secure.

In response to Open Thread #36
Comment author: Alexander 15 March 2017 04:28:33AM 0 points [-]

I am wondering if anyone has suggestions on where to volunteer one's time (not money)

Has this been discussed much by EA people?

In response to comment by Alexander on Open Thread #36
Comment author: DavidNash 15 March 2017 09:05:27AM 3 points [-]

Here is an overall summary for any cause area.

https://80000hours.org/2012/10/how-to-be-a-high-impact-volunteer/

I think this is a good summary for people who care about animal suffering.

https://animalcharityevaluators.org/ways-to-help/volunteer-effectively/

There is also http://dotimpact.im/ for people that want to work on EA projects.

In response to Why I left EA
Comment author: DavidNash 20 February 2017 01:11:58PM 10 points [-]

It feels like there are a range of different communities for EA, both on and offline. I've never really looked into philosophy and most of my conversations with people revolve around practical things to do and rarely does it go into existential risk/invertebrates and there is a lot more focus on system change/mental health in terms of more popular fringe ideas.

Also there are quite a few people who dip in and out of the community and will turn up once a year or just read the latest updates which seems good to me, everyone has different priorities and tasks taking up their time.

This isn't really to persuade you, just to highlight to anyone reading that there doesn't seem to be one type of community, and that you don't have to be in or out, you can just use the tools provided for free.

Comment author: DavidNash 30 January 2017 02:34:17PM *  1 point [-]

I think the easiest way I have for explaining why people don't do the things that others expect of them, and may assume laziness or immorality, is to first ask themselves why they don't donate 1% more or give one more hour or spend more time researching.

This probably goes together with people having different weighting for different causes.

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