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Comment author: casebash 23 February 2018 03:35:54AM 2 points [-]

Out of curiosity, how many local groups already have paid organisers and how do you think this compares with an additional employee at a non-local EA org?

Comment author: MarkusAnderljung 23 February 2018 08:07:29AM *  6 points [-]

The org's I can remember off the top of my head are: EA Sweden (that's me), EA Geneva, EA London, EA China, EA Netherlands (used to have full-time staff, but don't anymore) and EA Australia.

I'm excluding CEA, EAF and Rethink Charity here.

Comment author: remmelt  (EA Profile) 23 February 2018 12:02:16PM 4 points [-]

On EA Netherlands: a major reason why we chose to switch part-time is because we had to look for other income sources (i.e. two of us were working full-time and didn't manage to raise enough funding to cover our basic living costs).

Comment author: casebash 23 February 2018 09:32:47PM 2 points [-]

My understanding is that EA Australia is hiring, but they don't have anyone yet.

Comment author: Bridget_Williams 24 February 2018 11:01:02AM 2 points [-]

Yep, EA Australia currently has no paid employees. But we are hiring for an Accounting and Administration Manager, with that wage funded by private donations from within Australia.That role won't be targeted towards community building, it will primarily be ensuring EA Australia meets its accounting and reporting obligations as a charity.

However, after recent discussions with Australian local EA group organisers, and in line with planned changes to our org structure, EA Australia is considering recruiting a person to serve as a central coordination point for Australian local group organisers. Yes, meta.

I'm interested to know if there is any similar model for this in other regions. That is - are there any situations where one person acts as a central resource point and support for local groups in their country/region and as an interface between their country/region's local groups and the rest of the global EA community?

Ps. If you have any Australian based friends who might be good for EA Australia's Accounting and Administration Manager position please let them know about the role: https://www.seek.com.au/job/35533240?type=standard&userqueryid=ccec30d92e7aa652b9d1f30349919d04-7905238.

Comment author: [deleted] 23 February 2018 11:36:47AM 0 points [-]

really interesting!

Comment author: weeatquince  (EA Profile) 25 February 2018 12:23:26PM 0 points [-]

how do you think this compares with an additional employee at a non-local EA org?

EA London estimated with it's first year of a paid staff it had about 50% of the impact of a more established EA organisation such as GWWC or 80K per £ invested.

It is also worth bearing in mind that the non-monetary costs of ' an additional employee' are higher than the non-monetary costs of a grant (eg, training, management time, overheads, risks, opportunity costs)

Comment author: Lukas_Gloor 25 February 2018 12:55:52PM 3 points [-]

EA London estimated with it's first year of a paid staff it had about 50% of the impact of a more established EA organisation such as GWWC or 80K per £ invested.

Are they mostly counting impact on Givewell-recommended charities? I'd imagine that for donors who are mostly interested in the long-term cause area, there'd be a perceived large difference between GWWC and 80k, which is why this sounds like a weird reference class to me. (Though maybe the difference is not huge because GWWC has become more cause neutral over the years?)

Comment author: weeatquince  (EA Profile) 11 March 2018 10:21:09PM *  1 point [-]

EA London estitated counterfactual "large behaviour changes" taken by community members. This includes taking the GWWC pledges and large career shifts (although a change to future career plans probably wouldn't cut it)

http://effective-altruism.com/ea/1fh/lessons_from_a_fulltime_community_builder_part_1/