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Comment author: Peter_Hurford  (EA Profile) 28 June 2017 04:35:38PM 4 points [-]

How relevant is "the mirror test" in thinking about consciousness?

Comment author: lukeprog 28 June 2017 07:01:26PM 1 point [-]

Among the PCIFs mentioned in section 3.2.2, I consider it to be one of the more interesting ones, principally because it may be indicative of certain kinds of "self-modeling," and the theoretical approaches to phenomenal consciousness I intuitively find most promising are those which involve certain kinds of self-modeling.

That said, I still give it very little weight, since it's very unclear what, exactly, different mirror-related behaviors imply about the self-modeling capacities of the animal, and how those relate to the self-modeling capacities that may be necessary for conscious experience. For example see the quotes and sources in footnote 109.